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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Here is another accident that could have easily been prevented. A WOMAN who died w…"

shiva replied Feb 1, 2014 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"Yo, during the Time span 1815 - 1979 there was the Armenian genocide, Noakhali geno…"

shiva replied Sep 30, 2013 to Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock!

13 Oct 1, 2013
Reply by Antony

"Now this one is spooky This is the traditional head dress for Omani women to show th…"

shiva replied Sep 29, 2013 to Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock!

13 Oct 1, 2013
Reply by Antony

"  Women wearing traditional veils called “haik” walk in downtown Algiers. The niqab…"

shiva replied Sep 28, 2013 to Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock!

13 Oct 1, 2013
Reply by Antony

"Harry Potter star,  Afshan Azad, should not be in this gallery, as she is alive and…"

shiva replied Jul 27, 2012 to Honour Killings Grow in the West - a review by Pamela Geller

1 Jul 27, 2012
Reply by shiva

"Missing woman's car found on Bosporus Bridge 8 October 2009 / TODAY'S ZAMAN WITH WIR…"

shiva replied Jul 17, 2012 to Turkey becomes the World’s Leading Hotspot of Honour Killings [content warning]

3 Jul 18, 2012
Reply by Alan Lake

"This is rather a coincidence, I was looking at the above link Some real life storie…"

shiva replied Jul 17, 2012 to Turkey becomes the World’s Leading Hotspot of Honour Killings [content warning]

3 Jul 18, 2012
Reply by Alan Lake

" What a difference between Hamza,s daughter and Omar Bakri,s See here"

shiva replied Jun 3, 2012 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"There is a very simple solution to this. The government should make Nikah legal"

shiva replied May 23, 2012 to The truth about polygamy - by Sue Reid of the Daily Mail

2 May 23, 2012
Reply by shiva

"My 2 cents for what it is worth We where all born naked, and we all have a desire fo…"

shiva replied Jan 20, 2012 to Femen - Collected Articles

121 Jan 28, 2016
Reply by Antony

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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