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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"I was just re-telling this story to someone else, when I realised another aspect of…"

Joe replied Jan 9, 2016 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3390765/Birmingham-teenager-lied-punched-wea…"

Joe replied Jan 9, 2016 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"6 foot Canadian man, gets to vote wearing a niqab, with no-one wanting to compare hi…"

Joe replied Oct 9, 2015 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"FGM is sunnah, according to islamic law website. http://islamqa.info/en/9412 This wa…"

Joe replied Jul 1, 2015 to FGM: a global islamic practice, NOT an african practice

5 Jul 1, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"93% of Malaysian muslims have had FGM. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/93-of-musli…"

Joe replied Apr 5, 2015 to FGM: a global islamic practice, NOT an african practice

5 Jul 1, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"There's so many things in this article, I don't know how to categorise it. 75% of th…"

Joe replied Apr 3, 2015 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"Old woman in Luton robbed of £3000 by "woman" in a burka. http://www.lutontoday.co.u…"

Joe replied Mar 25, 2015 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"Kindness of christians leads a burka'd up muslima to embrace western values. Her ill…"

Joe replied Mar 15, 2015 to Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articles

94 Aug 18
Reply by Antony

"Here's the Puff Ho article on this subject. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/…"

Joe replied Feb 13, 2015 to Cathy Newman (C4) Blocked From Entering Mosque

1 Feb 13, 2015
Reply by Joe

"I really didn't know where to put this piece. So, I figured that the Femen discussio…"

Joe replied Jan 26, 2015 to Femen - Collected Articles

121 Jan 28, 2016
Reply by Antony

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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