The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

This photo expresses so many irreconcilable differences between the submissions of Islam and the freedoms of Secular Democracy.

You have the idea of women without headscarves or burqas, proudly acting in society.  Then you have the idea of them working, and even, working in the military.  That connects to the idea of a pride in serving one's country - compared to a view in Muslim countries that the army is either a mug's game or a way of grabbing power.

Then because women are working and able to leave the home, you have the practicality and convenience of being allowed to breastfeed in public.  Finally you have the idea that breastfeeding is a healthy and normal activity, and can be done without shame or embarrassment.

Are people really ready to give up their 4 Freedoms for the 4 Submissions of Islam?
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I don't believe that people are ready to give up their freedoms.  The only westerners who willingly join islam are duped into it, or they are mental/social basket-cases.  Those who are duped into it will often defend their decisions and deny the truth of further knowledge about islam.  We see that in the case of the two converts to islam in this video here: http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/theology/forum/topics/mdi-vs-tommy-...

At the moment, the vast majority of people in the west dislike/dispise islam, but they see it as no real threat.  And their hostility to it exists despite 50 years of the medi refusing to tell them anything about islam.  Once the threat from islam becomes visible to them, they will oppose it.  Until then, they are just getting on with their lives, and dealing with the things that they see as bigger threats or bigger pleasures.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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