It takes a nation to protect the nation
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Para sa mga Pilipino, lalo na sa Mindanao, paghihirap karahasan mula sa Islamic Jihad
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To protect and reclaim the 4 freedoms in Denmark
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Για την προστασία και ανάκτηση των 4 ελευθεριών στην Ελλάδα
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To defend the 4 Freedoms in Africa
(apart from Nigeria, Egypt and Sudan which have their own rooms)
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Latest Activity: Aug 30, 2021
These topics were written before we had specific rooms for each country. Please post any new topics in a specific Islamic country…
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Latest Activity: Aug 31, 2022
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Deals with ideological threats to our freedom and society. Analyses argument and rhetoric in all its forms: media interview, debate,…
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To hold all the key statistics and maps which are so hard to keep track of.
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To protect Jews, whose 4 Freedoms are under particular attack
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Latest Activity: Aug 24
For protecting the 4 freedoms in Australia and New Zealand.
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Voor Nederlandse sprekers voor de coördinatie van de bescherming van de 4 vrijheden
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Latest Activity: on Saturday
Für deutschsprachige Mitglieder, um den Schutz ihrer 4 Freiheiten zu koordinieren.
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Latest Activity: on Friday
For protecting and reclaiming the 4 freedoms in the…
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Länsimaalaisten, eurooppalaisten ja suomalaisten vapauksien säilyttämiseksi.
To protect the freedom of Finland, Europe and the Western…
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To protect women and society from abuse which is ideologically authorised, i.e. Honor Killings, Forced Marriage, Bigamy, Legal Sub-status,…
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These forums were mostly added by Indoeuropean before we had specific rooms for each category.
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Latest Activity: Apr 9, 2022
These topics were written before we had specific rooms for each country. Please post any new topics in a specific country room, where…
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Latest Activity: Sep 24
Per contribuire a unire le Persone italiane ed italofone nella loro Lotta per le Libertà (4 Freedoms) [Nell'Immagine:…
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These topics were written before we had specific rooms for each country. Please post any new topics in a specific European country room.
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Latest Activity: Jan 9
To fight for the 4 Freedoms in Canada
Welcome to 4 Freedoms!
(currently not admitting new members)
Just fill in the box below on any 4F page to be notified when it changes.
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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