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February 2011 Blog Posts (19)


During a recent debate it became apparent that we are having trouble defining exactly what "English Culture" really was. Some of us feel that there should be some kind of datum to decency. Some of us believe that we should revive the notion that England is a Christian Culture but then we have problems defining what, as Christians, we actually stand for.


One of things that I have seen in my life is the damage that Abortion has done to friends and relatives and it worries me…


Added by John Sobieski on February 28, 2011 at 18:30 — 41 Comments

If Islam Ruled America

If Islam Ruled America

By Abdullah Al Araby

Jump to:   First: Liberty   Second: Democracy    Third: Equality   

Would Islam treat…


Added by Albert on February 28, 2011 at 8:52 — No Comments

The last step and breathe.


These words were spoken by an EDL casual at the SDL demo in Paisley, Glasgow. On the 26,2 2011.


Through out the last 18 months, groups of SDL men have crossed the border and traveled hundreds of miles south down the length of the land.  They have done so to support the casuals and the common people in the British lowlands. So today, I and others like me  have traveled north across the border to repay them, and to stand with all of you, the casuals who make up the…


Added by casual green on February 28, 2011 at 2:00 — 1 Comment

Palestinian Authority Rewrites History

Rewriting history
Rewriting the history of the Land of Israel in order to deny Israel's right to exist is central to Palestinian Authority (PA) policy. Long before it started the Terror War in 2000,…

Added by Albert on February 27, 2011 at 23:30 — No Comments


A copy of a letter sent to Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard, in response to a speech given on September 26th 2001.

The author of the letter is Peter Betbasoo. (see link and letter below)


November 7, 2001

Carly Fiorina


3000 Hanover Street

Palo Alto, CA 94304-1185

Dear Madame…


Added by Albert on February 25, 2011 at 22:00 — 2 Comments


And you think it is bad here in America. Take a look at what is happening to our European cousins. 

They have lost the freedom of speech. Geert Wilders, the leader of a political party in Holland and a member of Parliament has spent a lot of time in court because he told the truth. In telling the truth he has been…

Added by Danny Jeffrey on February 23, 2011 at 1:05 — 3 Comments

Dismayed ,Disgusted and Disturbed

I read with horror the fate  of teacher Gary Smith for daring to do his job , not preaching hate or inciting there was a right or wrong path to follow , just showing the different beliefs people follow in the world today .

  Yet for his innocent teaching practice he wasn't killed thankfully (although a non Muslim who proselytize for there religion among Muslims faces the death penalty according to Islamic law) but was slashed across the face and received a fractured skull , no this…


Added by joe hawkins on February 22, 2011 at 12:54 — 3 Comments

Removal of Bahrain Protesters video from the Shocking Room.

A very dear friend of mine who is probably the wisest man I have ever met taught me that God gives us a conscience for a reason and if something bothers us it is probably because it would bother him to. Just because we have the power to do something does not mean that we should. Posting the link to this video bothered me.


I did not produce the video of the Bahrain protesters but in high lighting it I could offend the families of the fallen and, after all, how different is…


Added by John Sobieski on February 21, 2011 at 3:30 — 7 Comments

The Islamic Way

Islam means the destruction of all governments and laws, to be replaced by the Caliphate and Sharia.

"Moderate" Muslims have no historical foundation to draw from, while the "radicals" are following the consensus of how Islam has always been practiced. The so-called "radicals" are nothing more than pious, observant Muslims who are acting on the commands of the Qur'an (i.e to fight until religion is for Allah alone, and the whole world is under Islamic rule).… Continue

Added by Albert on February 16, 2011 at 0:40 — No Comments

Arabs Sexually Harass Female 'Peace' Activists; The Lefts Silence Victims:

Two activists have exposed a disturbing phenomenon that they say is an open secret within the “peace camp”: female “peace” activists are routinely harassed and raped by the Arabs of Judea and Samaria with whom they have come to identify. They say the phenomenon has gotten worse lately and that many foreign women end up as wives of local Arabs against their will, but cannot escape… Continue

Added by Albert on February 16, 2011 at 0:06 — 6 Comments

The Koran: Verse of the Sword

There are 124 verses that call for tolerance and patience that have been cancelled and replaced by one, single verse. This verse is called the Verse of the Sword:

    "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)..." Surah 9:5

The religion of Islam arose where there was no external imposition of limits, and it developed a religious doctrine… Continue

Added by Albert on February 16, 2011 at 0:00 — 4 Comments

Islam in the nude

In a parallel Universe, Muslims both Women and Men pray together, and they are naked.

Added by Albert on February 15, 2011 at 7:51 — 1 Comment

Muslim Mafia

Allah is our goal, the Prophet is our guide, the Quran is our constitution, Jihad is our way, and death for the glory of Allah is our greatest ambition.

-Muslim Brotherhood credo

Added by Albert on February 14, 2011 at 23:29 — 1 Comment

Shariah Finance Watch Has a List of Shariah Compliant Banks

Posted: 13 Feb 2011 02:29 PM PST

ACCORDING TO Shariah Finance Watch, the following banks are "Shariah Compliant." Is your bank on this list? There are at least two reasons to boycott such banks: First of all, Sharia compliant banks are required to donate two percent of their profits to Muslim "charities," which are often jihad-related groups, because, of course, jihad is an inextricable part of Islamic doctrine. Secondly, the widespread existence of such policies at banks ostensibly… Continue

Added by Albert on February 14, 2011 at 23:04 — 1 Comment

I mean really feed the children

Added by Pat McCrann on February 13, 2011 at 22:30 — No Comments

Feed the Children

Added by Pat McCrann on February 13, 2011 at 21:32 — 3 Comments

Watch Dispatches Channel 4 Monday 8pm - Islamic Schools, what they are really teaching.

Undercover investigation of what is really taught in Islamic Schools


No surprises but handy to have more proof that Evil is endemic within Islam.


Tape it if you can.


John Sobieski

Added by John Sobieski on February 13, 2011 at 15:01 — No Comments


The format they provide currently does not work in yet.


There's a switch on Youtube to select "Use old embed code [?]", so use that for now and it will embed ok.

Added by Alan Lake on February 11, 2011 at 16:13 — No Comments

Just so you all know....

Not that I'm offended by people thinking so, but just for the record I'm not a bloke. :)



Added by Pat McCrann on February 6, 2011 at 14:45 — 2 Comments

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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