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Muslims really hate Christmas.

"The Saudis have beaten and tortured Americans in Jeddah for singing Christmas Carols. [...] They forbid American soldiers from celebrating Christmas while stationed in Saudi Arabia. [...] American officials in Saudi Arabia follow Saudi wishes by seizing and disposing of Christmas trees and decorations and other symbols of the holiday. They seize and destroy Christmas cards sent to (the mostly non-official) Americans who receive their mail through a Saudi postal box, and even tear from the envelope U.S. stamps portraying religious scenes."
http://www.meforum.org/283/appeasing-the-saudis

"Saudi Arabia is probably the only country in the world where shops sell traditional Christmas decorations on the sly. If you want Christmas tree decorations for example, you'll find tinsel in one store location and then the baubles on the other side of the store next to the jewellery. [...] I had a friend of Christian origins who lived in Saudi with me in the mid 90's - he thought it would be brave and outspoken to put Christmas lights all over the date trees surrounding his walled in house. Well, he got egged, insulted, beaten and exiled by his community. You do understand that it is not the religious bases that is shunned in this case, but rather the imitation of "the west" - which is kind of the same thing."
http://margraves.blogspot.com/2006/12/christmas-in-saudi.html

"One florist told customers that several dozen fresh [Christmas] trees from Holland were intercepted at the airport, hacked to pieces and then sent back to Holland."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/12/where-is-christmas-in-saudi-arabi...

Yup, muslims are worse than Scrooge and the Grinch put together. Scrooge was just a little cranky. And the Grinch just stole Christmas and stuffed it into his cave.


Why if muslims had their way, they'd behead Santa, flog all the reindeer, and stone Rudolf after amputating his nose! In fact, I'm pretty sure that when Santa flies over Saudi Arabia, he doesn't make any stops. He just instructs Donner, Blitzen and crew to take a big dump over the mosque at Medina.

The reason muslims have such a problem with Christmas is that it's FUN. Let's face it, kids aren't tugging at their parents sleeves on the first morning of Ramadan. Ramadan sucks.

Nope it's the very FUN of Christmas that the muslims find so threatening. The fact that everybody loves it, from age 3 to 103. That it makes everyone feel like a child again. It's absolutely insidious how Christians worm their way into your society. We all know the truth: even Saudi Arabia would erupt into a squealing orgy of Christmas if the religious police ever let their guard down, even for a second.

It's just natural, because Christmas is FUN, and that's the one thing that Islam can't tolerate. As the biggest Grinch of them all, Ayatollah Khomeini, so eloquently put it:

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam."

So folks, let's rub their faces in the fun of Christmas once again this year. Be sure to wish all your muslims friends a very Merry Christmas!! Offer them some eggnog, give their kids presents and Christmas cookies, and whistle those Christmas carols every chance you get!!

Merry Christmas, Muslim Haters!!

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Comment by pyrus on December 25, 2009 at 12:54
great post John.

Merry Christmas to all
Comment by OldWarDog on December 25, 2009 at 1:34
Merry Fuckin' Christmas to the UAF. Here's a pressie from me:

Comment by Charles morley on December 24, 2009 at 18:38
Christmas hum bug its pagan
for get father christmas , rudolf, and presents and but christ on the throne of your heart .
That what Christianity is all about God incarnate has man .
Remember that folks this year

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