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At 17:48 on September 23, 2015, sven von kohler said…
Philip, I agree - EU madness must end- we have to make a stand , but we one big obstacle,
PC press and radio/tv. As long as the reporting is as biased as it is currently people will not kow about the damage beig done to EU and in my case , Sweden. This country is just full of " soft cheeses" as we say, IE. brainwashed people. I am ashamed nowdays to admit that I am swedish. think I will leave Sweden soon had enough of this stinking "paradise"!
At 17:42 on September 6, 2015, Heather Gilbert said…

Thanks Philip. You are right, this is about survival. I, like many others get burnout from time to time. Stupid liberals keep crawling out of the woodwork and are more of a hindrance than the moslems. There will be backlash to all of this. All these idiots offering a home to moslem migrants are really inviting trouble. If only we could get some right minded leaders in power. 

At 18:06 on June 28, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

I cannot help but believe that we are generally safer with our own kind. Oddly enough lately I have found myself defending Christians in some of my writing due to the fact that compared with other superstitions they are the lesser of the evils, and that is only due to the fact that they were diminished in power and influence during The Enlightenment.

At 20:59 on May 23, 2015, Alan Lake said…

Hi Philip,

I just realised that there is a button marked "View thread" which sticks both parts of the discussion together from both my wall and yours.  So I can use that in future and post in the expected place  :-)

At 15:30 on May 10, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

A funny thing about Christians...So very many of them admire Ayn Rand and yet she was a hard core atheist and told us that selfishness is a virtue. The big difference between Atlas Shrugged and the Bible is that Atlas Shrugged was written to liberate with reason. The Bible was written to maintain ignorance and to rule the flock.

At 17:57 on May 3, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

Our days of honor are over. We now seem to be a collection of traitors, the complicit, and the apathetic. The warrior spirit is gone and with it the future.

At 13:57 on April 13, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

Philip, you just made a comment that I shall use in the near future,,,

"without the warrior ethic societies become defenseless"

Profound and quite true.

At 23:44 on February 12, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

Philip, you speak of your you do cartoons?

I have one in mind that I am incapable of rendering. I envision a woman coming through a door, torn dress, hair disheveled, black eye, sign flashing 'Malmo' in the background. She is saying 'Raped again! That is the third time this month!"

At 23:19 on February 5, 2015, Alan Lake said…


I replied to your comment on my wall, back on that same wall, not over here on your wall, because then its easier to read the whole conversation.

At 21:38 on January 15, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

I have always thought that kindred spirits would by mere association be friends. I guess that this makes it official, my friend.

Best regard, Danny

At 20:47 on January 14, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

While I ponder a reply, ponder this. 10 or 15 minutes of a very old science fiction short story by Isaac Asimov. He had quite an imagination, and it goes right along with the mysteries you have questioned.

At 22:10 on January 3, 2015, Danny Jeffrey said…

Only a skeptic can hope to find the truth in today's fantasy world. When that same skeptic has the courage to fight for that truth then we find the kind of man they write sagas about.

At 18:40 on December 22, 2014, Danny Jeffrey said…

True. I like a pump shotgun, Remington, for close work and a Ruger on my hip to finish the job.

At 5:50 on October 7, 2012, Civilus Defendus said…

Hello Philip,

My outgoing state representative stood among peers and said 'Sharia is our greatest threat and we must address it now.' I helped to raise his level of awareness about islam/sharia. Unfortunately, he is leaving office. However, more and more are willing to discuss the issue. My county and state now have party platform planks rejecting the use of sharia or supporting ALAC - American Laws for American Courts. Dr. Bill Warner's two talks (on the home page at the moment) are a great introduction to islam... irrefutable facts that as he presents them are difficult to ignore or minimize. I fear so much damage has been done in so many places, it will be difficult to maintain or push back.

Perhaps if we can reach women oppressed by sharia we can begin to see resistance that grows in their own nations. The world's populations cannot keep shifting to and fro else no culture will be stable and governments will collapse or do what they usually do, become dictatorial. 

In liberty, CD

At 14:35 on August 14, 2011, Jack Rainbow said…
Many thanks for this truly juicy selection of hatred and spite; I'm spoilt for choice but will probably select the most directly infidel-threatening. I am not sure of how the designations work for each sura or hadith. eg what exactly does 'Koran 3.28' mean, please? Also, I would like to give the source of the quotations in the leaflet, for example, which edition of the koran by which publisher. This is because I hope to convey a sense of transparency, veracity and honesty, so that  mediafed readers who think criticism of islam is extremist bigotry can check that what is quoted is absolutely true. Can you help with this please?
At 12:43 on August 14, 2011, Jack Rainbow said…

Hello Phillip,

I very much appreciate your erudition and knowledge of the Abomination and its Book of Lies. I would like to include some verses (suras?) in my next leaflet, but I don't know the Book of Lies well enough to select some really murderous and threatening stuff. I believe the Book has lots. Can you select a few please, and also, it would be helpful if you would like to do an outline text, maybe 500 words to inform ordinary people who only have the controlled media lies, revealing to them something of the the truth about islam. In the UK I feel it is of the utmost urgency to do something, however small to start with, to counteratct the ocean of media lies and disinformation to which the ordinary people are routinely and massively subjected. Please help. I can produce the leaflet in Norwegian if given the translation to copy. I will be posting all leaflets in the new leaflet room organised by Alan Lake.

At 16:08 on June 15, 2011, Kinana said…
thanks for this horrible news.  a url would be good.
At 9:03 on April 11, 2011, Alan Lake said…

That's fighting talk Philip!  

I agree absolutely that laws have to be changed.  Beyond that, I prefer not to speculate.  In handling any complex problem, all you can do is the first stage, then have a review.  We have no way of knowing what the world will look like in 10 or 20 years time, and what may be the best options, so I prefer to keep an open mind and focus on the immediate first steps.

Whatever happens, I hope all you Scandinavians can recover some of that Viking spirit you had long ago.

At 15:46 on April 10, 2011, Kinana said…

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