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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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At 17:21 on September 6, 2015, Philip Smeeton said…

Heather, you may feel that you are not doing enough, but you are doing what you can. You are participating and contributing, which is more than many do. We are all doing our best here at 4freedoms, and becoming terrorists ourselves is not an option. I am a member of a political party and vote for them, and I may have contributed a little to their ideology. Called upon to do more I would, I was a soldier, (parachute regiment), once and always will be. I am older than you, but this has nothing to do with age. It is about survival.

At 15:44 on December 2, 2014, Philip Smeeton said…

It's like a living nightmare Heather and very depressing. But we just don't have it in us to give up.

At 8:39 on November 30, 2010, Rabbi Nachum Shifren said…
Hi Heather
Hoping to be back in the UK much work to do! Looking forward to meeting you some day. Keep up the good work. Warmest regards
At 4:01 on November 30, 2010, Rabbi Nachum Shifren said…
Hi Heather, checking in from California. Alan is a friend of mine. You'll enjoy our new website:
Keep up the good work, we shall one day prevail.
At 9:58 on June 25, 2010, Kinana said…
I hope you are feeling better now.
At 20:32 on June 10, 2010, cimmerian said…
Hi Heather, thanks for the invite! I'm more active here than on Facebook... :)


At 16:22 on March 16, 2010, Donna Johansen said…
Hi Heather...thanks for your email. I am doing fine but struggling with a number of health issues, one being high blood pressure which doesn't help my passion to fight what's happening with the islamic issue! I don't know if that's why but I have just stopped even looking at Facebook. Decided to give this a shot.
Hope we can talk again soon.
At 3:20 on January 22, 2010, Jay said…
Hi Heather!!
Good to see you here!!
At 18:45 on January 12, 2010, Gaia said…
Welcome to 4 freedoms Heather!
At 9:55 on January 12, 2010, Heather Gilbert said…
That's helpful info Kinana. Thanks
At 8:53 on January 12, 2010, Kinana said…
for help / instructions and guidance to get around 4F go to:
At 21:09 on December 13, 2009, kim Israela said…
Jay is a member of 4 Freedoms World Wide. From there you can add him.
At 17:39 on December 13, 2009, Heather Gilbert said…
Hi Good to see you here. I can reply to PM's but that's about it LOL I need a degree course on how to navigate forums and webpage methinks.
At 17:36 on December 13, 2009, Herman Van Keer said…
Hi Heather,

Finally found some time to subscribe...
Have to find my way around... it'll take some time.

Saw a Dutch (forum/page) - don't know the lingo used here...
Canada too....

We'll see...
Oh yes: Kim was on here too.... requested her friendship.

Have a great day,

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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