The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

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At 3:56 on July 8, 2016, John Shade said…

Thanks Kinana. Looking forward to getting involved. Just reading at the moment but hope to start posting soon. 


At 9:12 on September 19, 2015, F.M. Shakil said…
Hopefully I will do whatever I could for our community.
Thank you for accepting me Kinana
At 9:38 on July 17, 2015, Camille Desmoulins said…

Thanks Kinana, I've been involved in the counter counter enlightenment for some time now. I write 2 blogs - the Desmoulins one on my profile and Carlos Malleum. I have published articles in several others including Shariawatch and Liberty GB.

I also help out a bit with the Vive Charlie project and am actively looking at commercial options to make the publication fiscally stronger.

At 21:16 on April 2, 2015, Almog said…
Thank you for accepting me Kinana
At 14:49 on January 30, 2015, AJ Liberphile said…

Thanks Kinana,

This is an interesting and complex site. I will contribute what I can!

At 14:40 on January 12, 2015, sven von kohler said…

Thank you ! I will write in the very near future about Swedish "freedom of speach today"

and what it used to be like!

At 2:55 on October 10, 2014, Robert Hand said…

Thanks, Kinana! Happy to be here!

At 0:10 on February 9, 2014, Pastorius said…

Thank you, Kinana. :)

At 9:56 on January 20, 2014, Md. Mukammilur Rahman said…

Thanks a lot. Nice to be here. 

At 15:04 on September 26, 2013, teck ghee lim said…

thanks Kinana; much obliged and glad to be in good company

At 13:41 on September 12, 2013, Lola said…

Thanks, Kinana. Glad to be here.

At 22:35 on August 8, 2013, LYDIA A FALOMIR said…

thanks, what a great site.. great information. great job

At 0:46 on June 29, 2013, Bridie Hall said…

Thank you Kinana - lets work together, "united we stand".

At 16:14 on June 7, 2013, Arthur said…

Thanks, nice to be back.


At 8:06 on May 8, 2013, steve simmons said…

Hi Kinana - thanks - glad to be back

At 19:47 on May 6, 2013, Stephen said…
Thanks buddy. Much appreciated.
At 15:16 on February 12, 2013, Marianne Conley said…

Thanks for your welcome, Kinana. Best wishes to all members

At 14:47 on February 8, 2013, James said…

Thank you for the welcome Kinana. I hope I will be able to learn something to fight the good fight.

At 17:17 on August 31, 2012, Ian Bell said…

Thanks Kinana - glad to be here

At 17:13 on August 10, 2012, Thomas Koskela said…


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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